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Date: Tue Nov 26 20:26:47 2002
From: oskar the couch
Subject: Re: Rape Fantasy?Boys fantasize about killing one another.
We call it "cops'n'robbers" or "cowboys and indians".
It's play-acting. You play-act with someone who is your friend,
someone you TRUST. They will pretend to hit you with a stick, but
you know your friend doesn't want to ACTUALLY split your skull
open. That's why it's fun, not brutal and horrifying as in an
actual war. I might even fantasize about taking a baseball bat to
the heads of some of the excuses-for-men that have excreted their
comments onto this board already - but it's just a fantasy (i
think...)
Sex and agression are twins. Guys "get off" competing
with one
another, in terms of the agressive/violent "rush". There
is a
sexual undercurrent to it though (do not, ever, expect a guy to
admit this!). The language guys use to demean one another
(hopefully in fun): "bitch","punk","up yours",
"fuck you" is a
cloaked form of forced-feminization of their opponents. Among
guys that like one another, it's taken in good fun (because they
TRUST one another). Horrifically, some men actually act this out
for real, against women - and other men (which is not an actual
homosexual crime, BTW, but a heterosexual male perversion).
Agression is one sign of strength. Historically, women have
depended upon men for protection. A man who is strong, can
protect - and so can be attractive. So a guy who is a dangerous
animal in bed, can be your dangerous animal protecting you (or to
use animal language: "owning" you). Sexual "Overwhelming"
could
be like an extreme form of hug, too.
It's a universal question: 'why do guys like "sluts",
but want
to marry "nice" girls' - is the same as - 'why do girls
say they
want you to treat them with respect, but end up going out with
"bad boys"?' (or fantasizing about 'rape')
The answer: we are all animals. We all want to fuck like
animals (no social constraints). For many good reasons, we
shouldn't just give in to our every impulse, but, if we deny (or
pervert) those desires, they still errupt like a volcano sooner
or later. If a damn holds too much water, it bursts. Thats' what
happens when you have fantasies - you are letting your body have
an orgasm by letting your animal sexual energy burst the dam of
social constraint inside you. BUT, it does NOT affect your
physical safety or social morals on the outside, in the "real"
world. That's why it's a fantasy (thick male idiots reading this:
read those lines again. Now again. Got it yet? If a guy wants a
woman to play-act such things, he will only get it through TRUST
and RESPECT) Guys should stop expecting "nice" girls to
not like
fucking-like-animals (or demeaning them in society if they do).
Another point: We are using the word "rape" in two radically
different ways. Inside her head, the woman is the movie director,
the cameraman, the actors, and the script writer. She is -
whether she wants to admit it or not - in TOTAL control. In a
real life rape, she is DENIED control. That's why real rape is
horrific, and fantasy is not.
It's possible for both men (yeah, even heterosexuals) and
women who are raped by men to experience physical excitement and
even orgasm during such a terrible experience. But if you were
pushed out of an airplane without a parachute, you might have
quite a rush of excitement or even "peak" experience then
too -
that sure as hell doesn't justify it!! It's a physiological - an
animal/nonthinking - reaction.
By admitting the responsibility for your own fantasies,
instead of running away from them, you are taking ownership of
your own mind and body. Enjoy exploring your mind - if you are
not afraid to explore the dark, there will be nowhere for
monsters to hide - they will be reduced to being your toys. But
when exporing your body with someone else, never expect anything
less than total respect. You can play-act, but only with someone
you genuinely trust. And communic